HBO Now or Later?

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HBO Now or Later?
Number 66
Broadcast Date April 11, 2015
Episode Length 1:01:47
Hosts Brian Brushwood, Tom Merritt

HBO launches on Apple, Cablevision and Sling TV, and YouTube to sell subscriptions.


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Opening Video

Primary Target

HBO on Sling TV
$15 a month
1 linear channel
On demand to library of TV and movies
Can watch HBO on up to three devices
$15 a month through Apple TV or Cablevision
Watch online, iOS devices (incl. Apple TV)
Pretty much identical to HBO Go

Signals Intelligence

YouTube sent creators an email about subscription service
YouTube subscription service becomes available in the next few months
Ad-free videos and offline storage around $10 a month (could be lower for specific categories)
Ability to put some videos behind paywall
Same % split as ads. 55% to creator
Sub money apportioned based on TSV
Partners must participate or have videos set to private

Gear Up

Xbox One Preview program (in months to all for $60)
$80 Hauppage WinTV-955Q TV tuner
Needs antenna separately
ONeGuide overlay, pause for up to 30 mins.
Stream to smart glass appps on Windows, iOS and Android

Front Lines

The first TVs to be officially “Netflix recommended” are LG's 4K UHD TVs with webOS 2.0, all of Sony's Android TVs, and Roku's sets from Hisense, Insignia and TCL. Does the ability to turn on your TV and have it launch Netflix with the push of one button appeal to you?
Lionsgate has a deal with Comic-Con International to create a subscription video on demand service featuring original content and movies from Lionsgate and partner studios. Do we want it?
DirecTV added 22 new live channels to its streaming app for subscribers, bringing the total to 90. Is it worth the money you pay for DirecTV?
Amazon will join Netflix in streaming shows in High Dynamic Range later this year, which delivers more vibrant colors to HDR-capable sets. It’s too early to care now, but will we care by next year?
Fox will no longer put out box sets of seasons of The Simpson’s on DVD or Blu-ray. Is this the death of the physical disk?
The Verge had a nice writeup on something most of us will never experience. PRIMA Cinema allows you to stream in-theater movies at home. Just agree to pay $35,000 for a device that will stop working if moved and requires a thumbprint scan to activate. Then the movies are just $500 each!

Under Surveillance

Star Wars is available digitally, special editions with some new featurettes. $20 ea. or $90 fro bundle. All but A New Hope are DMA. A new Hope is Ultraviolet. So buying at Vudu gives you the most flexibility.
"Grace and Frankie" starring Jane Fonda, Lily Tomlin, Martin Sheen and Sam Waterston comes to Netflix May 8
True Detective Returns June 21. Colin Farrell and Taylor Kitsch star as California Highway Patrol. Rachel McAdams as law enforcement who doesn't get along with them. Vince Vaughan as career criminal.
EW says an Agents Of SHIELD TV Spin-Off is being developed by SHIELD executive producer Jeffrey Bell (Angel, The X-Files) and SHIELD writer Paul Zbyszewski (Lost, Hawaii Five-0).

Dispatches From The Front

You guys were talking about how the Tivo Romio was the ultimate cord cutters box because it combined OTA DVR with apps. Well sirs! I submit to you that now that Microsoft is finally getting around to supporting an OTA tuner for the Xbox One here in the US, I saw they just went and beat Tivo and Channel Master to the punch! Just hold on and let me explain my case:
Before you say the price difference to too much it would take you about two years to pay the same amount of money you gave Tivo for the subscription that you spend to get the Xbox. Yes, the initial cost would be higher, but the Tivo option just spreads that out over two years. And over that two years, the Xbox One will continue to get more updates and capabilities, the Tivo will be just as slow and frustrating as it was on day one and you just keep giving them more money!
  • Tivo Romio - $49.99
OTA Recording
Slow outdated apps
Subscription Fee Required - $14.99/month
  • Xbox One - $349.99 + $79.99 Tuner from Hauppauge or $59.99 Official Adapter in a few months
All the apps you need up-to-date and fast
No Subscription -- Xbox Gold is NOT required for media apps or recording
Xbox tuner is not a DVR

Hey Employees. Quick question here.
I’d like to get into the Breaking Bad universe and I’m wondering as someone thats only ever seen the pilot of Breaking Bad should I watch Breaking Bad first or since Better Call Saul is a prequel should I watch that first?
-From your boss, Nik.

Given the recent news regarding Sling TVs hiccups during the final four basketball games, I'm curious as to what expectations for downtime for live internet-delivered TV are?
No downtime is certainly best, however I know personally I have held higher expectations for traditional broadcast methods compared to internet-streamed video. Although always annoying when streams fail / buffer / etc., I always expected it at times as it was new technology and/or rarely time sensitive material to watch. Sling TV is new tech itself and still maturing, but will viewers (from tech savvy to my grandparents) be expecting 'traditional broadcast stability' or 'internet broadcast stability'?
Of course there have always been technical issues with the 'old' methods as well. However I cannot remember the last time a major live TV event went down for more than a few seconds over traditional broadcast methods (perhaps I've been lucky). At the moment, these major live TV events, and high viewer counts, must be massive quality concerns for IP-delivered TV streams. Quality and stability are even more vital given the events themselves are a major reason for purchasing services like Sling TV in the first place.
This will hopefully become a non issue as tech improves of course.
Keep up the fine work!
Your boss down under,

I thought I was the only one! After paying and seeing a terrible movie in 2007 (REDACTED) sitting through an hour and half to find out that he still dies (ohh yeah spoiler alert, but it doesn't even matter it's so terrible Do Not Watch It!) I seek out every movie and TV show plot before I invest my time watching it. I have sympathy for the spoiler-phobic and try not to spoil things for my friends and family but personally I'm not paying for something if I know I won't like the end.
You guys are great, I love your show, and I'm thrilled to be a patron! :-)
-Steve B.

Hey guys,
Just thought I would chime in on the spoiler discussion.
I would have to admit I am definitely closer to the Andrew Zarian spectrum when it come to spoilers (maybe its a Queens thing).
I tend to enjoy spoilers and never try to avoid them unless I know I am about to see something soon anyway, and would of course not seek out a show called spoilerin time if I was afraid of possible spoilers.
I will admit, if it wasn't for you guys spoiling Breaking Bad every week on Frame Rate, I probably would not have taken the plunge to binge watch it all. And I still greatly enjoyed it, despite knowing *blank* is blown up using *blank*
By the way Brian, if you do read this on the show it might need to be in spoilerin time. Despite the blanks people will still get upset.

Employees, fellow owners, stop complaining about spoilers if you don't like them don't listen! I get tired of hearing about should we have spoilers, shouldn't we have spoilers, oh my God we need to do this about spoilers no no we need to do this. I don't listen to here 5-10 minutes of debating spoiler protocol weekly!

I am a long time supporter of cordkillers and shaved the cord down to only my local channels.
My question is about Yahoo! Screen and their recent original programing. I am a big fan of community and love that they are giving it a second life. Since I was in the app I also decided to check out Sin City Saints, which appears to be another solid show. I now see that they are bringing in some show called Other Space. The thing is that Yahoo! has been providing these shows without any visible commercials on the roku or apple TV apps. Is the plan a future subscription service or is there something else going on? With some of this quality programming, I would hate to see it all vanish because they are not getting a return on their investment. Just wondering what Tom Brain and guest might think about what is strategy.
Love the who bro.

Do you know of a way to get an alert when your favorite team is the free game of the day on Maybe by using In this case I know what I want to watch. I just don't know when it is available to watch.
In case you don't know what I'm talking about, as part of the streaming service they offer one game a day for free. I don't pay for the service, but when my favorite team, the Chicago Cubs, is the free game of the day I would like to seize the opportunity. I have WGN America on cable and unfortunately this year the Cubs games that are on WGN are only on the broadcast version of the channel available in the Chicago area, but not WGN America the cable channel available via cable throughout the country.
This is similar to what TBS did a few years ago when it separated TBS the cable channel from TBS the broadcast channel available only in the Atlanta area. However, in that case the broadcast version became known as Peachtree TV with separate branding and programing, while the cable version stayed TBS (very funny). The Braves games that were available on TBS are essentially now on Peachtree TV.
In WGN's case both the broadcast version and WGN America have the same programing as far as I can tell except for the lack of Chicago Cubs games. And the subtle difference in branding between WGN and WGN America confuses most consumers.
-Bill near Athens, Georgia

2015 Winter Movie Draft

  • 1. GFQ: $252,522,000
  • 2. Cordkillers: $13,500,000
  • 3. Night Attack: $0
  • 4. DTNS: $0
  • 5. Frogpants: $0
  • 6. Amtrekker: $0



Preceded by:
"Spoiler Alert, Susie Dies in this Episode"
HBO Now or Later?
Followed by:
"You’re Excited for a Prequel"